167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#51 Post by swo17 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:55 am

Reeniop41 wrote:This will be the first Bluray to Bluray upgrade!
PlayTime

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#52 Post by Reeniop41 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:01 am

swo17 wrote:
Reeniop41 wrote:This will be the first Bluray to Bluray upgrade!
PlayTime
Yeah forgot about that and I stand corrected although there were mixed feelings about the 4K restoration on the newer version in the Tati Box Set.
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Playtime- ... 11/#Review
Maybe The Complete Monterey Pop Festival will be the 1st Criterion UHD disc/s! But definitely the first Bluray boxset to Bluray boxset upgrade to commemorate its 50th anniversary.

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#53 Post by hearthesilence » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:35 am

I've seen the restoration at IFC. My one complaint would be the grading on Cass Elliot's reaction shots during Janis Joplin's "Ball and Chain." That scene in general is tough to grade because they shot it with the aperture too open so not only are Joplin's shots blown out but the color on her was thrown off. It looks like the footage on Joplin may have been improved on the restoration by a fair margin but for some reason Elliot's reaction shots now look wrong, like you're looking at her through a strong pair of polarized shades. On the current 2009 Criterion BD, Elliot looks fine, with the color and exposure being in perfect balance.

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#54 Post by Rupert Pupkin » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:57 am

Is there any chance (some info?) about more footage available (the outtakes) ?

There's only half-a song and just a complete song of Laura Nyro's performance... Although the backing-band couldn't follow the Eli And Thirteenth Confession jazzy style there's almost no footage of Laura Nyro in concert so [-o<

And I wouldn't complain about Janis Joplin with Big Brother complete concert (as well as the Who). But did D.A Pennebaker kept all these reels ?

I was already so surprised and pleased to discover so many bands when Criterion release Monterey on DVD with the DVD "outtakes".

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#55 Post by charal » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:11 am

There must be more outtakes available. Whether they can be legally released is another matter. Two clips that show up in atrocious quality on youtube are Pictures of Lily (THE WHO) amd Viola Lee Blues (GRATEFUL DEAD). Does anyone know of other unreleased takes?

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#56 Post by aox » Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:14 pm

charal wrote:There must be more outtakes available. Whether they can be legally released is another matter. Two clips that show up in atrocious quality on youtube are Pictures of Lily (THE WHO) amd Viola Lee Blues (GRATEFUL DEAD). Does anyone know of other unreleased takes?
You might find this helpful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monterey_Pop_Festival_(set_list" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#57 Post by aox » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:11 pm

Can anyone explain why this is up for a re-release? Or why people assume it is?

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#58 Post by Ribs » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:11 pm

aox wrote:Can anyone explain why this is up for a re-release? Or why people assume it is?
See the posts on the previous page?

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#59 Post by aox » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:14 pm

Ribs wrote:
aox wrote:Can anyone explain why this is up for a re-release? Or why people assume it is?
See the posts on the previous page?
No, I did not. Thanks.

EDIT: Although, I see I have in the past. Must have slipped my mind. Been a long day. Apologies.

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#60 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 8:52 am

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#61 Post by swo17 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:24 pm

Reissue Dec 12

There will be a new BD boxset of all of the films, as well as new BD and DVD standalones of the main feature.

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#62 Post by swo17 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:32 pm

For comparison purposes:
Old features wrote:- New high-definition digital transfers, supervised by D.A. Pennebaker
- New 5.1 mixes by legendary recording engineer Eddie Kramer, presented in Dolby Digital and DTS
- Two hours of performances not included in the original film, from the following artists: The Association, Big Brother and the Holding Company, The Blues Project, The Byrds, The Paul Butterfield Blues Band, Country Joe and the Fish, The Electric Flag, Jefferson Airplane, Al Kooper, The Mamas and the Papas, Laura Nyro, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Simon and Garfunkel, Tiny Tim, and The Who
- Audio commentary on Monterey Pop by Festival producer Lou Adler and D.A. Pennebaker
- New video interview with Lou Adler and D.A. Pennebaker
- Audio interviews with Festival producer John Phillips, Festival publicist Derek Taylor, and performers Cass Elliot and David Crosby
- Photo essay by photographer Elaine Mayes
- Original theatrical trailer for Monterey Pop
- Original theatrical radio spots for Monterey Pop
- Monterey Pop scrapbook
- Audio commentary on Jimi Plays Monterey by music critic and historian Charles Shaar Murray
- Two audio commentaries on Shake! by music critic and historian Peter Guralnick: the first on Otis Redding’s Monterey performance, song by song; the second on Redding before and after Monterey
- Interview with Phil Walden, Otis Redding’s manager from 1959 to 1967
- Original theatrical trailer for Jimi Plays Monterey
- Video excerpt: Pete Townshend on Monterey and Jimi Hendrix
- Essays by Critics Armond White, Michael Lydon, Barney Hoskyns, and David Fricke
New features wrote:- New 16-bit 4K digital restoration of Monterey Pop, supervised by director D. A. Pennebaker, with uncompressed stereo soundtrack
- Restored high-definition digital transfers of Jimi Plays Monterey and Shake! Otis at Monterey with uncompressed stereo soundtracks
- Alternate soundtracks for all three films featuring 5.1 mixes by legendary recording engineer Eddie Kramer, presented in DTS-HD Master Audio
- THE OUTTAKE PERFORMANCES: Two hours of performances not included in Monterey Pop, from the Association, Big Brother and the Holding Company, the Blues Project, the Byrds, Country Joe and the Fish, the Electric Flag, Jefferson Airplane, Al Kooper, the Mamas and the Papas, Laura Nyro, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band, Quicksilver Messenger Service, Simon and Garfunkel, Tiny Tim, and the Who
- Audio commentaries by Pennebaker and festival producer Lou Adler, and music critics and historians Charles Shaar Murray and Peter Guralnick
- New interviews with Adler and Pennebaker
- Chiefs (1968), a short film by cameraman Richard Leacock, which played alongside Monterey Pop during its inaugural theatrical run
- Interviews from 2002 with Adler and Pennebaker and with Phil Walden, Otis Redding’s manager
- Audio interviews with festival producer John Phillips, festival publicist Derek Taylor, and performers Cass Elliot and David Crosby
- Photo-essay by photographer Elaine Mayes
- Monterey International Pop Festival scrapbook
- Trailers and radio spots
- More!
- PLUS: Essays by critics Michael Chaiken, Armond White, David Fricke, Barney Hoskyns, and Michael Lydon

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#63 Post by DeprongMori » Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:57 pm

Is The Complete Monterey Pop the first official upgrade of a Blu-ray release from Criterion?

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#64 Post by hearthesilence » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:06 pm

This was asked and answered earlier in this thread, but no it's not. (see Tati's Playtime)

I was hoping for a standalone of the film itself (so I wouldn't have to buy the whole box set all over again), but alas.

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#65 Post by Ribs » Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:12 pm

There is a standalone rerelease as well.

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#66 Post by Michael Kerpan » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:07 pm

So, it looks like only Monterrey Pop itself is getting upgraded?

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#67 Post by hearthesilence » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:12 pm

Ribs wrote:There is a standalone rerelease as well.
I gladly stand corrected!
Michael Kerpan wrote:So, it looks like only Monterrey Pop itself is getting upgraded?
I wrote to Criterion about this and they pretty much said only the original feature was restored.

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#68 Post by aox » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:17 pm

- New 16-bit 4K digital restoration of Monterey Pop
- Chiefs (1968), a short film by cameraman Richard Leacock, which played alongside Monterey Pop during its inaugural theatrical run
- Interviews from 2002 with Adler and Pennebaker and with Phil Walden, Otis Redding’s manager
So, that's really the only "upgrade" here?

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#69 Post by The Narrator Returns » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:29 pm

With the promise of "More!".

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#70 Post by Rupert Pupkin » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:53 pm

ok, so the "outtakes" are not "expanded" ? :oops: (for instance : Laura Nyo (still only 2 songs (Poverty Train and a little bit of the end of Wedding Bell Blues)
they were not in 1080p24 contrary to the main movie "Monterey", "just" "i" but still the picture was really good.
I don't know if only the main movie has the X4 treatment... (and they could re-author and re-encoded the "outtakes" blu-ray to 1080p24 (using their previous transfer) without being a X4 transfer...)

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#71 Post by swo17 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:58 pm

Gotta save something for the re-re-rerelease.

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#72 Post by tenia » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:41 am

hearthesilence wrote:This was asked and answered earlier in this thread, but no it's not. (see Tati's Playtime)
It is, however, the first time they specifically re-release / upgrade an individual BD release.
Playtime was re-released as part of the Tati set, which was a whole deal, but it still isn't accessible in the US in an other manner. This is different.
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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#73 Post by swo17 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:09 am

It remains to be seen which answer the Jeopardy judges will go with.

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#74 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:30 am

I know it's always been one of the extras but I think it's really cool there is film of The Blues Project playing "Flute Thing" here. That's one of my favorite 60's rock instrumentals.

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Re: 167-169 The Complete Monterey Pop Festival

#75 Post by dwk » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:55 pm

The following seems to be a new addition to the special features:
1987 interview with Pete Townshend on Monterey and Jimi Hendrix

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