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123, 361 Grey Gardens and The Beales of Grey Gardens

#1 Post by Martha » Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:47 pm

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Meet Big and Little Edie Beale—high-society dropouts, mother and daughter, reclusive cousins of Jackie O.—thriving together amid the decay and disorder of their ramshackle East Hampton mansion. An impossibly intimate portrait and an eerie echo of the Kennedy Camelot, Albert and David Maysles's 1976 Grey Gardens quickly became a cult classic and established Little Edie as a fashion icon and philosopher queen. Thirty years later, the filmmakers revisited their landmark documentary with a sequel of sorts, The Beales of Grey Gardens, culled from hours of never-before-seen footage recently found in the filmmakers' vaults.

NOW INCLUDES THE 2006 FEATURE-LENGTH FOLLOW-UP THE BEALES OF GREY GARDENS

Special Features

DISC ONE: Grey Gardens

• New digital transfer
• Audio commentary by filmmakers Albert Maysles, Ellen Hovde, Muffie Meyer, and Susan Froemke
• Excerpts from a recorded interview with Little Edie Beale by Kathryn G. Graham for Interview magazine (1976)
• Video interviews with fashion designers Todd Oldham and John Bartlett on the influence of Grey Gardens
• Behind-the-scenes photographs
• Trailers
• Filmographies
• English subtitles for the deaf and hearing impaired

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DISC TWO: The Beales of Grey Gardens

• New digital transfer, approved by director Albert Maysles
• New video introduction by Maysles
• Optional English subtitles for the deaf and hard of hearing
• Plus: A new essay by cultural critic Michael Musto

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#2 Post by Lino » Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:59 am

Give us your verdict on this one:
The Charge: "I only care about three things: the Catholic Church, swimming, and dancing. And I had to give them up." --Little" Edith Beale

Opening Statement: They are arguing again, as they always do. The older one, reminiscing of bygone days, her triumphs as a mother and a performer; the other, lamenting her failures as an ing�nue and her distance from urban utopia. Cocking her head for the benefit of the camera, the younger one sarcastically rolls her eyes at her mother, snapping, "Ah, the hallmark of aristocracy is responsibility, is that it?"

Even America has its aristocracy, the landed gentry that haunt communities like the Hamptons. Along these streets, mansions hide behind long driveways, and the wealthy count their blessings. But among these mansions lurks Grey Gardens. And its inhabitants, cousins to American royalty (does Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy Onassis ring a bell?), have fallen from grace.

The Evidence: Edith Bouvier Beale and her daughter, dubbed "Little Edie." When we first meet them, Little Edie muses that the police might be coming to raid them�again�while she wonders if one of the many cats that wander in and out might have crawled into that unnerving hole in the wall, the one that keeps growing as raccoons take up residence in the attic. Like gothic outcasts from Faulkner or Hawthorne (Little Edie refers to The Marble Faun), the Beales are the trailing edge of the aristocracy, the forgotten stragglers of a dynasty. Rather than ruling on high, their natural sociability has been put to the test in coping with everyday nuisances.

In spite of this, Little Edie soldiers on. "It's awfully difficult to keep the line between the past and the present," she remarks, as she wonders if her clever attempts to make her tattered wardrobe fashionable might be too much for the hired help. What are her obligations as the last of the patricians? Must she hold up a certain standard of behavior as part of a public face, or must she retreat from the cameras in shame?

David and Albert Maysles, whose camera captured the street-level desperation of the door-to-door salesman in the cinema v�rit� classic Salesman, make their presence in Grey Gardens known from the outset. For some v�rit� purists, this might be taboo: the camera should act objectively and not interfere with the subject. When the Maysles point their camera, the soft color image captures the textures of the dilapidated home and the slow degeneration of Little Edie's beauty�the product of frustration and time. The monaural soundtrack picks up all the ambient noise: in one scene, Little Edie practices dancing the VMI Marching Song for the Maysles, mentioning that she practiced all night, but seems disappointed when the slight whine of a plane overhead draws attention away from her.

Indeed, Little Edie is always performing for the camera. This is why the presence of the Maysles is necessary in the film. She constantly addresses them, flirts and jokes with them. Performance is what drives Little Edie: appearance, clothes, literary allusions (Robert Frost, Hawthorne), public image. Trapped in her own lost past, Little Edie has become a simulacrum of herself. Her existence is all performance, and she constantly needs an audience. If not New York, to which she longs to return, then the Maysles' camera. If not the Maysles, her mother.

For Big Edie, the act of performance is subtler. She pretends not to care about the camera, casually mentioning she might be naked or demurely remembering her past. But she requires an audience just as much as her daughter: she sings along to a record of her own youthful voice, she tells stories of her abortive career on the stage. The two Edies have performed for one another for so long that the camera is only another participant; they would continue to do show off even if the Maysles were not there. Perhaps, in the end, this is the very function of aristocracy in America: to become spectacle. In their need to be on the public stage at any cost, they have trapped themselves. They dance around one another in circles, the same thing day after day (and if the film has a major flaw at all, it is in this repetitive structure�but perhaps that is exactly the point). They support one another psychologically by showing off all their joy and rage and frustration. As Big Edie says, "You can't get any freedom when you're being supported." And even without money, without servants, without paparazzi and celebrity, the Beales still need to perform for us. They need our approval and support. And we still need to watch.

And the Maysles, with Ellen Hovde, Muffie Meyer, and Susan Froemke, deliver. When the Beales first came to public attention, as police raided their home and Gail Sheehy exposed their plight in a 1971 article, Hollywood offered a theatrical treatment with Julie Christie as a (presumably) tightened and coherent Little Edie. The real Edie balked, demanding to play herself. And she does. Playing herself is what Little Edie does�it is all she has left. Criterion's release of Grey Gardens offers Little Edie the chance to shine. In addition to the film, we are presented with a 1976 audio interview (running about forty minutes) with Kathryn Graham that expands on some of the backstory and reveals a bit more of her paranoia (at one point in the film, Little Edie wonders if handyman Jerry has been sneaking around the house stealing her books). A photo scrapbook offers three sections: a series of photos and news clippings detailing the Beale history, a host of photographs of the Beales and Maysles, and a group of photographs of the ubiquitous cats. Recording over the color bars at the end of the film, we are offered a recent four-minute phone conversation (my guess is probably December 2000) between Albert Maysles and Little Edie (now retired to Florida) in which she chats excitedly about her fans and offers some comments about the Bush/Gore election debacle.

Regarding those fans: Little Edie became a sort of cult figure after this film because of her flamboyant personality and quirky sense of fashion (especially her ever-present headwear, leading everyone to wonder if she actually had any hair!). Fashion designers Todd Oldham and John Bartlett, in two separate interviews recorded by Albert Maysles, attest to this cult status. Although the Bartlett interview suffers from bad audio (Criterion apologizes for this in a note after the clip), the two designers rave about Little Edie's "hypnotic" personality. In the film's commentary track, the filmmakers joke about Little Edie's popularity and her joy at the attention. While Albert Maysles does make a few comments about the brothers' relationship with their subjects and makes a few technical observations, Ellen Hovde, Muffie Meyer, and Susan Fromke easily dominate the conversation. They discuss how their nearly 100 hours of film and audio footage was reshaped into a psychological structure, "squeeze[d] into fictional form," in order to explore how Big Edie and Little Edie depended on one another. They spend a good deal of time observing the gender and class politics of the film, how both Edies gave up their dreams of personal fulfillment in favor of family obligations.

And for the royal families of America who imagine that their lives are private and protected, the great truth is this: that their final obligation, "the hallmark of aristocracy," is to dance for their real master, the camera.

Closing Statement: Grey Gardens offers a unique look at family and fame. As Little Edie covers her face with a mirror (photographed in the style of Man Ray or Magritte), she reflects us, her desperate vanity a blank face upon which we might impress our own insecurities. The Edies isolate themselves, their world spins away from the mainstream, and Grey Gardens becomes a story that suggests our own constant struggles between the desire for attention and the desire to simply be left alone.

The Verdict: The Beales have punished themselves enough. Case dismissed.

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#3 Post by Michael » Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:09 am

One of my favorite films of all time.

Coming Soon! - Grey Gardens DVD Scrapbook! Want to know what the Marble Faun is doing these days? Read on.

Several paragraphs quoted from Women's Wear Daily (July 26, 2005):
Three decades after Maysles and his late brother, David, made what has become a cult classic film with the Beales, Jacqueline Kennedy's cousins, he is putting together a "Grey Gardens" DVD scrapbook to be released by the end of the year.

Maysles said in a telephone interview that the film has inspired "Grey Gardens" parties at which people dress up like the characters and recite favorite lines such as, "C'mon in, we're not ready," or "They can get you in East Hampton for wearing red shoes on a Thursday," and "The hallmark of aristocracy is responsibility."

In addition to unused footage, the release will have a `where are they now?' quality. Jerry Torre, the handyman who befriended the Beales at their dilapidated estate, Grey Gardens, and is now a New York City cab driver, recently tracked down Maysles and invited him for a sentimental journey. The filmmaker obliged with camera in hand.

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#5 Post by Buttery Jeb » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:39 pm

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you: "Grey Gardens: The Musical."

Personally, this will have to work really, really hard to surpass theheights of my last Off-Off-Broadway filmic experience: "Roadhouse: The Musical" (starring Taimak from "The Last Dragon" in a blonde mullet wig as Patrick Swayze). Ahhhhh, good times.

-BJ

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#6 Post by zedz » Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:28 pm

The delay in this reissue has been attributed to mercenary motives elsewhere on the forum. (I couldn't possibly comment, but if so, it seems to be paying off!)

A more charitable possibility might be that new material is being created following the recent rediscovery of the Marble Faun, as documented in this New Yorker piece.

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#7 Post by Ashirg » Thu Mar 23, 2006 9:20 pm

They may want to wait when the feature film is released.

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#8 Post by zedz » Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:24 am

Ashirg wrote:They may want to wait when the feature film is released.
My mind is already boggling. How can this not be a trainwreck for the ages?

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#9 Post by skuhn8 » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:35 am

I wish Barrymore would retire or that she would at least stop being cast as a sexpot--the bloated cow.

Anyway, what's the scoop on this reissue? Are they adding new material or is it just like the Traffic reissue?

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#10 Post by dx23 » Fri Mar 24, 2006 11:56 am

skuhn8 wrote:I wish Barrymore would retire or that she would at least stop being cast as a sexpot--the bloated cow.
I think that the"bloated cow" is very pretty. i like her curvy figure and I like that Hollywood promotes her as a sex symbol and wish that they would do it more often, since what they ussually promote is girls that are anorexic, bulimic or just plain cokeheads as Paris Hilton, Nicole Richie, The Olsen Twins, Lindsey Lohan and sadly now, Hillary Duff. We can go on, but this shouldn't be part of the Grey Gardens thread.

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#11 Post by leo goldsmith » Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:05 pm

I just wish the bloated cow could act worth a damn.

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#12 Post by skuhn8 » Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:06 pm

True, not the place for it....

Does anyone know what this reissue is all about? Anyone? Hello?! Very informative forum: five pages of posts complaining about the first 6 months of 2006 releases and not a word about what this Grey Gardens reissue entails.

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#13 Post by Arn777 » Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:14 pm

A second disc, with apparently extra bits that Maysles found and wasn't included originally plus other stuff. It's somewhere in the rumours and news section.

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#14 Post by redbill » Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:35 pm

Maysles put together some new footage, following up on some of the "characters". Both Edie's are dead, but the gardener is a cab-driver in NYC, and he got a lot of footage of him. That's not a whole lot to fill up a whole disc though. I wouldn't be suprised if they throw on the doc he made for Christo's Gates.

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#15 Post by zedz » Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:17 pm

My understanding was that the extra disc would be extensive: a whole new feature's worth of outtakes from the original film. The initial report (which was direct from Maysles, as I recall) should be able to be excavated from Rumors and News.

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#16 Post by FilmFanSea » Fri Jun 09, 2006 1:36 am

Movies Unlimited is listing a new release date for the 2-disc Special Edition (originally scheduled for March) as August 22nd.

Since the current edition hasn't gone OOP yet and the SE wasn't listed with the rest of the August releases, it's probably best to wait for an official announcement.

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#17 Post by mikebowes » Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:13 am

Coming to the Bratte Theatre in Cambridge, MA this summer:

Friday, August 11

Area Premiere!
The Beales at 3:10, 7:30
(2006) dir Albert & David Maysles, Ellen Hovde, Muffie Meyer w/Edith Bouvier Beale, ‘Little Edie' Bouvier Beale [100 min]

In honor of a new Criterion release of the Maysles Brothers' GREY GARDENS, a whole new film of outtakes and alternate scenes from the footage taken during the legendary filmmakers sojourn with the Beale women has been created. This remarkable addition to the already beloved documentary features more of the wild and endearing behavior that has already made Edith and ‘Little Edie' Beale in cult favorites. A parade of swimsuits, shameless flirting with the filmmakers, off-key renditions of classic tunes, nothing is out of the ordinary in the Beales' cluttered and crumbling East Hampton home. Don't miss this rare opportunity to see even more of the strange, hidden world of the Beales.

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#18 Post by zedz » Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:14 pm

Yet another theory for the delay in the rerelease, and probably the most convincing one yet. Presumably the 'DVD extra' turned out so well that it deserved some theatrical airings. Maybe now we're looking forward to a separate Criterion release for The Beales and an accompanying 'Complete Grey Gardens' box.

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#19 Post by buskeat » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:09 am

Perhaps Criterion may delay the release until November, when the musical hits Broadway. They'd get far more publicity with that timetable.

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#20 Post by Ashirg » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:11 am

Or until 2007 when big screen remake with Drew Barrymore and Jessica Lange will be released. That should have even more publicity...

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#21 Post by tavernier » Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:12 pm

zedz wrote:Maybe now we're looking forward to a separate Criterion release for The Beales and an accompanying 'Complete Grey Gardens' box.
I looked at this quickly and thought it said The Beatles. Damn - so no Hard Day's Night/Help/Magical Mystery Tour/Let It Be box. :cry:

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#22 Post by CSM126 » Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:31 pm

I was just at the official criterion page for this film, and I was perplexed to see David Maysles' signature under the title. He's been dead sine 1987, no? Are we supposed to believe he approved this disc from beyond the grave?

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#23 Post by arsonfilms » Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:33 pm

CSM126 wrote:I was just at the official criterion page for this film, and I was perplexed to see David Maysles' signature under the title. He's been dead sine 1987, no? Are we supposed to believe he approved this disc from beyond the grave?
Two words: Corporate Séance.

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#24 Post by kinjitsu » Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:18 pm

CSM126 wrote:I was just at the official criterion page for this film, and I was perplexed to see David Maysles' signature under the title.
The transfer was approved by Albert Maysles. The signatures are just that, signatures.

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#25 Post by CSM126 » Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:30 pm

It's still misleading.

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